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turbomonz,
thanks,
I will first have to work on my own starting mechanism before I'll get you that video - hopefully I will be at my boss' shop soon, I'll hope to run it there with his starting mechanism... don't know when..
But.. so you are saying that in Italy you like race bikes more than show bikes...? why not do both, like mine?
Like I said, this is my long term project. I have no real limits in regards to time or money, in this way I set myself free in doing whatever I want to the bike...
I guess you guys in Italy prefer different things... nice to know...
hey man...only one thing i've asked to you... why you were not in groningen? maybe the guys that there were, and their bikes were not up to you and your rocket nano ?... i do not like and are not accustomed to speak of those who do not know ... but making an exception it seems to me that your reputation (among people who knows you) is well deserved ... and the fact that you care more than anything else the aesthetic is not just narcissism ... I think it is mainly because you could never get it to work properly ...
ps...do not think that i speak for jealousy, barbie bike is the right thing only for you, because tells the world what you are, but you can not say ...
per andrea...lascia perdere, prima di parlare per qualcuno...forse sarebbe meglio conoscerlo, io ero i olanda, e ti assicuro che anche se non era presente è stato la star della giornata, veramente il "best in show"...MA NON COME AVREBBE VOLUTO LUI!
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Don't worry darling.. you're just like the rest .... what should I care what you or your friends from the meeting think about me? I'm not building this bike for you.. doing it my way fully.. let me work on it and I will let you worry like i said: you're the same as the others by doing worrying..
If you are not speaking of jaelousy, why are you so bothered? please don't try to disrespect me.. why dont you build a bike that is worth looking at and talking about...? something like mine, a bike that goes to the shows that REALLY matter, a bike that has been viewed more than 180,000 times in just one day and photographed more than 90,000 times....
i don't want to feel like excusing myself for things you dont like about me or my bike... the credentials are present.. you just sit back, wait, let me do my thing and judge later once it is finished....
I didnt have time to go to the Groningen meeting, was on vacation.. I will drop by this year 2009... happy?
Now don't post here anymore Ivano, I will not post either for some time...
do not read and not reply ... you're too stupid to lose any more time with you. i hope strongly to see you (and your barbie toy) this year at the'09 vespa ciao nl meeting...
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Fredzzz ha scritto:why dont you build a bike that is worth looking at and talking about...? something like mine, a bike that goes to the shows that REALLY matter, a bike that has been viewed more than 180,000 times in just one day and photographed more than 90,000 times....
Because I think (and Ivano too) that is really stupid spend a lot of money for a "ornament"..
Why do you spend 1500€ and more for a engine that you will never use..?!
Why do you spend other money for a nx kit if you will never use it..?!
I cant understand... It's a good work, really good work, but I don't like this waste of money.
Qua da noi si dice: poca spesa, tanta resa...
The Car Art ha scritto:Le vie del signore sono infinite. Prendine una e vaff..
Ivano is ignorant, he does not know what I am really building here, he only believes the stories of others... he will see at the '09 meeting..
I never spent 1500 euros on this engine.. I traded one of my projects for it..
Why don't you understand why I have the NX kit? Isn't it clear? Basic idea of tuning an engine is by getting it more air so it will have a more and greater combustion, thus more power. One way of getting it more air is by using a nitrous oxide kit... you understand that, right?
Fredzzz ha scritto:Ivano is ignorant, he does not know what I am really building here, he only believes the stories of others... he will see at the '09 meeting..
I never spent 1500 euros on this engine.. I traded one of my projects for it..
Why don't you understand why I have the NX kit? Isn't it clear? Basic idea of tuning an engine is by getting it more air so it will have a more and greater combustion, thus more power. One way of getting it more air is by using a nitrous oxide kit... you understand that, right?
if you're so shure that it work rightly...it's so simply...show us a video, (i'm sure that you love to see yourself in a video...)
for the part of your answer dedicated to me (thanks a lot for that) i cannot answer, because is so complicate... is a too subjective point of view ...one thing that for you is gold, maybe for me is only shit...
however...to show that your are not just empty words there's only a way, one race, and the winner takes it all at home... we agree? otherwise shut up, and shiny that useless ornaments!
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ivano ha scritto:if you're so shure that it work rightly...it's so simply...show us a video, (i'm sure that you love to see yourself in a video...)
for the part of your answer dedicated to me (thanks a lot for that) i cannot answer, because is so complicate... is a too subjective point of view ...one thing that for you is gold, maybe for me is only shit...
however...to show that your are not just empty words there's only a way, one race, and the winner takes it all at home... we agree? otherwise shut up, and shiny that useless ornaments!
Why wouldn't the nitrous express work? I haven't ever used it on the bike, but I asked you why YOU think it will not work... I am more than willing to explain you, again, how it works..... but since you are the big mechanic, you should already know how it works....
I have the old video of the engine on youtube.. you must have seen it, that was with the PVL ignition.. now I run it with the HPI ignition, but have no starting mechanism..
when I visit my boss again, I will make a video for you and your friend moraz...
as you know, you can't just push start this bike or press a button to start (it's not a scooter), its more complicated than you think.. but of course you wouldnt know that..
Please ivano, don't get all big-shot movie-type..... ONE RACE? THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL HOME....? This is not the fast and the furious...
but whatever, we will settle it fairly..... i've beaten you by miles on the exterior bit, now you want to see the mechanic bit.. fine
I'll dyno my piece..you dyno yours.. whoever pulls out the highest HP rating (true rear wheel and engine calculated - three runs) and the highest top speed wins..
Winner takes 500,00 euros..
I'll call you out when we'll settle this... if you really want to, let me know big shot....
I read only the last line and are already tired...i want you, on your "bike" on the street... two or three laps with a few curve...i'm sure that you can not drive that ridiculous ornaments and fall to earth...and I laugh until tears!...
There are 1500 km to get there, I should do all this way fo 500 miserable €?......try to be serious...if you are not able to drive, you can pay someone for do that for you ...but on the street...to demonstrate that this ridiculous u.s.o* is anything but a motorcycle!
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Ivano, you are not clear my friend.... you want ME.. in a RACE.... but you dont want to drive 1500 km for this race?
I don't race tracks, you probably do.. I want to keep it fair and break it down to what should really matter to you: horsepower and speed... we can test this on the dyno, we don't need a track... But if you don't want to come here, then do it in Italy... I'm sure you have official dynos in Italy...
but you seem to be scared now..
I don't think Ivano want to see "numbers", we all want to see how a sprocatti engine really beat on race... well, you can pump horsepower with nos or turbocharger (for example) but if your bike has low level brakes or suspension or frame or transmission (is an example ).... it can't win a race.
Probabily we are interested in two different things, a show bike and a racing bike... i don't tink it's possible to make a show-racing bike, too much differences... So ok, horsepower and speed, but it is really fast on race? If we use a crono instead a dyno, it will win?
I think no one would disrespect you, the question is that we all can't se a sprocatti engine run on race, so we are a "little" diffident. Sprocatti engine have a lot of power, but a lot of problems. I think the bigger is transmission, too cheap to survive 25hp (if they're effective 25hp... well, for this a dyno test would be useful!!)
Sorry for my english, last time i practice english was ten years ago.. or more
[quote="Fredzzz]when I visit my boss again, I will make a video for you and your friend moraz...
as you know, you can't just push start this bike or press a button to start (it's not a scooter), its more complicated than you think.. but of course you wouldnt know that..[/quote]
I will wait........................................ ...
Fredzzz ha scritto:Ivano, you are not clear my friend.... you want ME.. in a RACE.... but you dont want to drive 1500 km for this race?
I don't race tracks, you probably do.. I want to keep it fair and break it down to what should really matter to you: horsepower and speed... we can test this on the dyno, we don't need a track... But if you don't want to come here, then do it in Italy... I'm sure you have official dynos in Italy...
but you seem to be scared now..
Please stop talking now..
Fredzzz, you don't understand.
MAYBE your engine on the "highest HP rating" has more horsepower than Ivano engine, but you've a engine with "disco rotante" (i can't say it in english ).. And this is a big disadvantages for you.
I want to see Sprocatti engine on a track, not on the "highest HP rating".
We all want this.
The Car Art ha scritto:Le vie del signore sono infinite. Prendine una e vaff..
but my dear freddz... you have an italian "bike" (exscuse me for the dirty word) an Italian engine,and write on an italian forum...what would come to teach us?...
you think that is it enough to have a Sprocatti to get it to work? no...if so ... do not think I would have a couple too? and insists that you want to do the dyno test , but for do that , your engine must be perfectly at point...but if you said that you don't put it in motion? ...how can you have setted it?
it seems to me that there's a bit of fog in your mind... because settings a bike, is not put on a chrome exaust...
the bike runs, I only need to set it properly, especially with the NX kit..
Did you really think I was going to run a untuned bike against you, with the wrong idle settings and NX jets..?
the bike runs, I only need to set it properly, especially with the NX kit..
Did you really think I was going to run a untuned bike against you, with the wrong idle settings and NX jets..?
Just be patient
fredzzz.... non mi disturbo nemmeno a cercare di parlare in inglese, mi dicesti anni fa di avere pazienza... e visto che qualcuno per caso ha tirato fuori da sotto la polvere questo topic e ci ha ricordato le tue sbruffonate, ti chiedo, sei riuscito poi a mettere a punto quell'affare strano, ridicolo... si, la moto della barbie?... la presunzione è una delle caratteristiche del carattere umano, ma prima di scrivere cazzate, sarebbe meglio pensare... quindi ti faccio una domanda diretta, ce lo fai vedere in moto quel ridicolo aggeggio o no? o preferisci dimostrare senza ombra di dubbio che avevo ragione io ben due anni fa, e cioè che sei un buffone tu, e una buffonata quel tuo motorino "umpalumpa"?
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.... what should I care what you or your friends from the meeting think about me? I'm not building this bike for you.. doing it my way fully.. let me work on it and I will let you worry 
like i said: you're the same as the others by doing worrying..
).. And this is a big disadvantages for you.