He told me he is a CCC.it member to and CCC.it name is URICAMO !
The problem is after my payment of € 434,63 he sended me a foto of a shippingdocument / invoice .
So far so good , but after 2 weeks i still didn't receive anything .
After 15 e-mails i filed a complain @ paypal .
1 week after filing the complain i upgraded to claim by paypal .
After the claim i received another foto of a shippingdocument / invoice with another tracking number
but the adress and description were exactly the same as on the firts shipping invoice .
So for Italian Paypal it was ok , the seller sended the shipment and he is free of charge !
Within 4 days i received a package from mister Giovanni Viel and it only contained a broken
and incomplete Polini 46mm Gruppo termico for € 434,63 .
So with this story i'm almost getting so angry that i'm going to hit and kick this man when i'm going to Italy .
My question is , can a moderator confirm that Uracimo is Giavanno ( Gianni ) Viel and uses one of the e-mail adresses
written above .
Or better does any one know him personal and has his cellphone number for me ?
I just looked at the Photo's at his gallery , these are all photo's he uses at Ebay.it .
Even from the Sprocatti 100c H2O for € 1.350,- wich i had reserverd for 2 weeks
he has photo's at his gallery !
I have 2 german buddy's which have the same problems with mister Giovanni Viel
and whe are going to kick his little sorry ass at his home , work or anywhere he is .
He has a deadline of paying me till 16.00 our today !
If not one german will call his famaly connections in Italy and pay him a visit !
The one who want's to play games , get's his game !
I have 2 german buddy's which have the same problems with mister Giovanni Viel
and whe are going to kick his little sorry ass at his home , work or anywhere he is .
He has a deadline of paying me till 16.00 our today !
If not one german will call his famaly connections in Italy and pay him a visit !
The one who want's to play games , get's his game !
Hi...
Having regard to the very high price that most would do well to call your German friends
If he don't make the payment, we'll give you a hand to complete the reimbursement or to close the sale as a "proper seller"
here we are, what we can do will do!
Sorry for my bad english..
Biagio
Padre nostro che sei nei motori dacci oggi il nostro 70 quotidiano e rimetti a noi i nostri rotori come noi li rimettiamo ai nostri amici e non ci indurre alla legalità ma liberaci dal 50, Amen
come già pubblicizzato olliegasselt ha ricevuto la merce e per giunta il rimborso dell'importo.
Ora aspetto la restituzione della merce.
allego il tutto.
SPEDIZIONE:
RIMBORSO:
per motovi di privacy, sono stati oscurati i dati sensibili personali
it doesn't look too good this.
people should not be allowed to get away with this kind of treatment.
the guy paid loads of money for basically not the advertised product and a load of rubbish when he received it.
i'm not surprised you want to kick someones ass as i would too.
surely ebay should be able to do something about it as it should be classed as fraud ?
cheers
giuseppe l'inglese
these are the kind of people that make us Italians have a bad reputation abroad.
Luckily they are just a very few of us, but they are there.
If I were you I will anyway contact the Italian Postal Police that takes care of crimes made using internet.
Probably this will not help you to get your money back, there are not enough policemen working and they usually take cares of much worse crimes made using internet, but if they have several person doing this they will be forced to do something.
For what i have heard, the italian postal service is really crappy.
Also the prices you have to pay for shipping to and from from italie are to high.
@olliegasselt
If you paid this with paypal, and you filled in a claim you should defenitly win it.
Your not getting the product you paid for, paypal should send the money back without any problems.
well i mean if you were to send a letter say then yes the post service is not very good.
having said that i have ordered lots of parts from Italy from sellers and the service chosen by them normally get's to me in about 6 days, sometimes a little more.
thanks
Giuseppe l'inglese
For what i have heard, the italian postal service is really crappy.
Also the prices you have to pay for shipping to and from from italie are to high.
@olliegasselt
If you paid this with paypal, and you filled in a claim you should defenitly win it.
Your not getting the product you paid for, paypal should send the money back without any problems.
Ciao Hansieb112
For my job I ship many parcels in Italy and Europe, and honestly the Italian postal service is not so bad now, at least for the "signed for" services.
It had big problems about 4 years ago when went thru a big reorganization.
It is expensive, this is true , specially compared to the price applied from the German or UK postal service, but the "problems" are on the same level or less than we have with DPD Europarcel (in Europe) or Bartolini (in Italy)
One suggestion, always ask for "signed for" service for important things , the std services are still unreliable
The italian postal service customs services are very slow , but this will not affect shipping within EEC, it regards goods incoming from out of EEC country, were 2-3 week delay is std
Hello together,
I'm also new here. My first post is not very happy, too!
In OCTOBER !! I ordered some Malossi parts from Mr. Viel (Uricamo), but they never arrived!
Nothing arrived, although he said, that the parts were sended.
Now I try to get my money (330€!!) back for more than a month!
Mr.Viel has got the correct bank account and my adress, but he says that he just sends the money, when this topic is closed.
Can somebody please help me with this cheater and liar Mr. Viel?
Regards
Ultima modifica di Jockoballa il mar nov 18, 2014 11:24 am, modificato 1 volta in totale.
Okay, I am fed up with this insolent clown.
I think I will charge him by lawyer for fraud, extortion, insult and injury of privacy!!
This is what he wrote to me:
First mail.
Title: "Fuck you and your freinds!"
Text: "I open the big topic in italy and all state cee for you name adresse mail and your foto!
Cancel the topic first, then money!!!!!!!!"
Second mail.
Title: "CCC"
Text: "Now? Nix money!"
Third mail.
Title: "Ciao stronzo come va!"
Text: "Sei proprio un coglione! Adesso i soldi li vedi col binocolo. Te e i tuoi consiglieri del cazzo.
Pirla!"
Does anyone know "Narder16" ? I need his help, because I have heard, that he knows Mr. Viel.
Please help me, I don't think that every Italian is like Mr. Viel!
manali8th ha scritto:Hello All;
I ordered a zirri marmitta for ciao from Mr Giovanni Viel, & i never received it.
After several emails, & didn't answer at all.
Mr Viel? are you here? I'll come to udine to crash your head with some italian friends of mine dude.
Except if you send me the zirri marmitta.
Here's my email address again: mikael.diamantino@addaxpetroleum.com
Contact me please & be honest.
don't worry, he doesn't read the forum since a lot of time.
There's an other topic about him, but it's in italian: http://www.ciaocrossclub.it/root/phpBB3 ... 8#p4312378
Mr. Viel tried to make the same "joke" with an italian police man.. that didn't went well for Viel.
Good luck..
The Car Art ha scritto:Le vie del signore sono infinite. Prendine una e vaff..